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Offline Ghost44

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Modeling some flat car loads
« on: February 10, 2011, 03:30:58 AM »
Hi guys,

I have been working on a flat car load with CAT equipment.



I'm finishing it up. I've been looking at prototype pictures. I keep seeing these yellow signs.

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1495672

I want to make one up and put it on my excavator; however, i can't find a close up to make out everything it says. It says the train that the load should be on and how many cars are in the manifest; however, that's all i can make out.

If anyone has input or has a better picture of one of those signs that would be great.

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Re: Modeling some flat car loads
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2011, 03:47:42 AM »
http://www.ttx.com/Equipment/listingtype/special-equipped-fleet/chain-tie-down.aspx

TTX used to have a lot more info on their site... I will keep digging.......
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Re: Modeling some flat car loads
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2011, 04:11:38 AM »
Another close shot; however, same problem.

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1467162

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Re: Modeling some flat car loads
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2011, 02:04:58 AM »
What those signs have on them are the sipping information for that piece of equipment such as country of origin, country of destination, what model it is, shipping weight, what part number for the machine it is, (1 of 5 pieces) and things like that.  I have a close up pic somewhere I took about 20 years ago.  If I can find it I'll post it.

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Re: Modeling some flat car loads
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2011, 02:52:44 AM »
TTX at one time, until it was removed, a PDF file of all their equipment, including drawings..... I can buy a copy online, but free is not to be.....
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Re: Modeling some flat car loads
« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2011, 07:29:29 AM »
 O0 Don't focus on that particular detail...just observe for example that the chain-down methods, the dunnage(boards, timber, boxes) that are involved in the shipment of heavy equipment...

Just posting logs on a car with no bulkheads and no restraints so don't do it!

Somehow folks create so many loads for flatcars & bulkhead flats with absolutely nothing to hold them down to the car! :o

The equipment pictured are landfill wheel type tractors, that need sheepsfoot wheels for compaction...the one without wheels bugs me as being sent to an area with low underpass restrictions...regardless, they are equipped with bulldozer blades at the job site.

The last one is a wheel-type loader, by Caterpillar designation.

Thanks for your efforts to heavy equipment transport for Trainz!
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Re: Modeling some flat car loads
« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2011, 12:09:38 PM »
My Father used to work for Terex in Hudson Oh, and he told me once there was 2 reasons for taking the tires off equipment while in transport...

1: Make sure that the equipment could make it under some low bridges.

2: Most of the time Conrail took the Shipments thru Cleveland. It kept it from being stolen right off the flatcar.
« Last Edit: February 11, 2011, 08:16:55 PM by n8phu »
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Re: Modeling some flat car loads
« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2011, 08:04:47 PM »
Thanks for the help guys, I appreciate it.

Thanks for that tidbit of information bill. That helps a lot.

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Re: Modeling some flat car loads
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2011, 07:34:40 PM »
Its pretty much finished. What do you guys think?
The limitations of the model prevent me from chaining it down any better than I have it.






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Re: Modeling some flat car loads
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2011, 07:45:29 PM »
Looking good!
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Re: Modeling some flat car loads
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2011, 08:12:37 PM »
 O0 Your work on this looks great.

If the overhead clearance suits you, it's fine, but you can disconnect the hydraulic ram on top, shove it back into it's cylinder & crowd the boom as low as it can go.  Band the cylinder to the boom with a black rubber band.
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Re: Modeling some flat car loads
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2011, 08:23:08 PM »
http://www.flickr.com/photos/spacecamp/2372679206/sizes/o/in/photostream/

found the picture i need.
See if I can make out some of this giberish.

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Re: Modeling some flat car loads
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2011, 08:42:21 PM »
 O0 ...that's another way to do it, by extending the boom all the way forward you may get some better clearance, but I thought you tried that...

The way I described would be a lowboy load, but a flat car has more space.
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Re: Modeling some flat car loads
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2011, 08:45:29 PM »
I have bent it all the way toward the cab. If i bent it anymore it would break. I don't have any tunnels on my layout. I think it may be fine as it is. If not, I will bend it all the way forward to get the boom down.

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Re: Modeling some flat car loads
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2011, 10:03:52 PM »
Your also dealing with the fact that the excavator model don't have the total movement of the real thing.  On that machine when everything is curled up and down on the deck the top of the boom should only be about 1 to 1.5 feet above the top of the cab. (that can vary according to the way the machine is set up and what attachments it might have)  It looks good though.

Bill